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By ddabrahim
#63903 EDIT://
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Big news everyone:

All the examples and templates now available at GitHub under MIT license means you can do with the examples and templates whatever you want, share them, redistribute them, say it yours and contribute with improvements or even new examples if you wish.

Visit:
https://github.com/GameTemplates

In case you have any questions, suggestions regarding any of the examples, templates at gametemplates.itch.io please use our forum here in the future:
https://gametemplates.itch.io/forum

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Spam time :twisted:

I have created this account long ago with the plan to sell source codes of various big projects of mine on itch.io but after I was not completely ready to set this up as at the time itch.io required to share my personal and bank details for payout before I even sold anything also the legal part of how to protect the source code and how to take care of non-free assets included in my project such as images and sounds and how to replace them with free or should I pay/offer royalty to the artists was doing me headache so I just didn't do it after.

But now I had the idea to use this account to share small examples and templates for free with the optional donation and so I just uploaded some of my recent examples I made for GDevelop 5 wiki for a start.

I plan to make small examples and templates to help people get started with making their games. I'm going to make these examples and templates in GDevelop first but eventually I plan to add source for other engines too and make it a sort of hub of a bunch of useful free source but according to my plan all examples and templates will be available for GDevelop.

Unfortunately the itch.io page is pretty limited when it comes to customization so I might just need to start a website to better organize content and use itch.io as the store front and host only but it is for later. For now will do for the few examples I plan to share.

https://gametemplates.itch.io/
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By LucaTexas
#63932 Thank you for everything you do, I'm happy when I find new codes, although some of them are already well acquainted with them while others do not.

said this I hope to send the project but without sacrificing perhaps the creation of your video game, in short, it should not be a sacrifice: P.
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By ddabrahim
#65628 Hi all.

So far only few people have downloaded the GD examples and received feedback only from one person but even that person suggested the examples are not very good which raise the question if making GD examples worth my time at all.
I'm at the point where I'm considering making some very complex templates even full games which might take weeks to complete and polish for GD alone but I'm not sure if it worth the effort based on my experience so far.

Because of lack of time and lack of feedback and interest from the community, probably there will be no more GDevelop templates .

But before I make the final decision, I would like to ask anyone interested to share some feedback, opinion on why people are not downloading the templates or what kind of templates should I be making?
Also in case you do have some request, suggestions for what templates would you like to see, you are welcome to post them below. I'm considering sharing even complete games so you can mention anything you may be interested in and if it something fit my plans, it will be considered.

I'm going to make my decision based on the feedbacks I may receive if any, in the next two weeks.

Thank you all.
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By Kink
#65637 Hello,

My opinion about "why people are not downloading" :

I think templates and examples can be really usefull in 2 cases : when learning Gdevelop, and when you're looking for a features/ideas to solve a problem during your game development. And it's why "recents" examples might be not so much downloaded, and i think a lot of people aren't using GD5 at all for the moment.
2/3 years ago, when i was discovering Gdevelop, i was looking for examples all over the forum, and even now, sometimes, i look for some specific stuffs/examples : it's not rare to find .gdg files posted in 2010/2011 that are really precious. For example, look at this one, downloaded more than 400 times since 2014 : http://www.forum.compilgames.net/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5580#p45344

I have no idea about the number of people using Gedevelop everyday, or discovering Gdevelop for the first time and would like to learn how to use it, but it can be part of the explanation :
- people involved in the GD5beta might not need examples at all, since they just trying the new editor and write feedbacks ;
- other users, like me, are focusing on one solo project for years, and so don't spare too much time on trying features or examples, by lack of time ;
- and at last, for people who are learning Gdevelop : everyone has a different learning curve : some prefers examples, some prefers to find tips on their own. And even if Gdevelop is great and easy, i think there are a lot of give up.

I think your templates and examples are great for the future, it should be archived and described like you did on itch.io somewhere on the wiki and the forum, it will be usefull in time for a lot of people, like the snake example i linked up in this post.

Personally, i discovered your examples only few weeks ago, by curiosity and by clicking on your signature. Maybe i missed it, but i think it would be great to host, list and describe it in one forum post, or even on the wiki, because a lot of people will look here, and not in users signatures, nor on other website like itch. Tutorials on the wiki are great for learning, but examples "out of the box" is not for the same public in my opinion.

And then it's a feeling, but i think a lot of Gdevelop user are still using GD4.
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By Jubeliuksen3
#65638
I'm not sure if it worth the effort based on my experience so far.


What do you want? Want to make those templates for living? You want to be famous and want attention? What is your problem?

I think you should make those templates just for fun. Don't think about it too much. Don't sacrifice your freetime if it does not feel right. Make those things because you want to help, don't hunt likes and attention. If no one or 1 download your template, so what?

I really don't understand why you need comments to decide will you continue or not.
No one tell you to make 1 template per day. You can make 1 per year if you want to.

I think you just want attention too much. Relax and take it easy ;)
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By ddabrahim
#65639
Jubeliuksen3 wrote:What do you want? Want to make those templates for living? You want to be famous and want attention?

Yes I would like to turn this in to a business because this is what I enjoy to do so why not. Don't tell me you don't, this is why you ignore the wiki even though I was suggesting you to put your tutorials on the wiki instead but you don't. Instead you put your tutorials on youtube and on your own blog. Deep inside you are hoping you can get some credit for what you do and benefit from it. I don't think that's wrong, do you?

Jubeliuksen3 wrote:I really don't understand why you need comments

The problem is that though I would like to take this to the next level and provide really complex templates and examples even complete games. But because of lack of time I can no longer focus on multiple engines, I need to pick one and focus on that single engine only.

Technically, I already made my decision on I"m going to be focusing on pure HTML5 and Javascript only and drop AGK and GD but before I turn my back on this community, only want to know if there is anyone around here at this very moment who are actually interested in templates and what sort of templates... If you are not, don't need to reply.
I don't want a comment on every single example I have ever shared on this forum (a thank you would be nice once in a while though), only want to know what would be really useful for this community. Maybe I would do it, maybe not, maybe it would be shared for free, maybe not, I make the decision when it done but first need to get some feedback otherwise you can not plan things.

Kink wrote: i think it would be great to host, list and describe it in one forum post, or even on the wiki

Regarding having a central place, yes this is what I was suggesting to 4ian, to create a dedicated page to share examples that is visible to everyone as soon as they visit the website and the forum and they can also try the examples before download, I even offered to be the admin of such page if he is not interested to do that but he did not replied and it was the time when I realized I could actually do something like this on itch.io, I did get back to 4ian and mentioned if he could add the feature to the wiki to embed the examples from itch we could actually do this without he need to pay for bandwidth if that is a problem. Just add me as admin on the wiki and on his itch account and done but he did not replied. I decided, to do it anyway...

End of story.

I have linked my templates on relevant places on the wiki and also on the forum, actually I did even collected all examples and templates in one place on the old GD4 wiki...
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By MicosS
#65640 Sorry to hear that mate.
It's very obvious that you are someone who knows how to work very well with GD and all that knowledge and experience is very important for the new users here, like me.
Being new here and a noob with GD (and everything that surronds GD in fact), i know the comment im making may be not very relevant for you and i understand that, but trust me mate, is extremely important to have experient guys here who can help the new users with their doubts and questions. And as you can imagine, you will not get much feedback from those same users exactly because they are exactly that: new users still trying to understand the "in and outs" of GD.

You gave me some advices for my little game project a few days back. Advices that i did follow and by doing that my game project become much more interesting!
It's sad to say this but it's a fact: the community here doesn't get much involved in terms of feedback (with a few exceptions). And it's also true that GD is missing a lot of tuts/examples for the several game type projects and GD functionatities. You have some of those nice and funcional projects/tuts i believe, and it would be a shame to see all that go...
But let's have hope! And, who knows, maybe something good may turned out to be a reality with these posts and comments.
Cheers!
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By LucaTexas
#65642 return here as it's just expressing my opinion many users don't use external platforms such as I did not even know of the existence of sites such as itch I, game jolt, etc such sites I know them and I use them now because by creating small I nigiochi use this service is very convenient, but if one doesn't even know at the beginning of existence.

then you have to check the average user who uses the forum properly the wiki is recommended to all but few use it.

For me direct examples download codes make you learn quickly and understandable without explanation the program and is one of the most useful things you find in this forum.

However do not take heart too on youtube I uploaded videos of 20 video tutorials but it's as if there are not to many, gdevelop community still needs to grow because for now is not in such great numbers.

I was thinking of opening a second playlist with all gdevelop5 you've created but I don't know if it's possible to do? but most of all you give me permission maybe can give you some visibility.

Maybe by posting more social networks which possess enormous potential, like youtube for me doing a lot of views.

then also depends on the type of examples if it is not too advanced code examples maybe a person does not use them, but if you can create some really advanced code type in my opinion people are interested to download it all.

I understand your opinion why waste time nobody likes him, I still hope that does not halt the project.



Sorry for the long post
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By Jubeliuksen3
#65644
Yes I would like to turn this in to a business because this is what I enjoy to do so why not. Don't tell me you don't, this is why you ignore the wiki even though I was suggesting you to put your tutorials on the wiki instead but you don't. Instead you put your tutorials on youtube and on your own blog.


I have never said such a thing, that is all your imagination (you sounds a little bit bitter) :lol: I did not ingore the wiki, I never thought about that possibility because I usually make VIDEOS and youtube seemed pretty clear choice, eh? You added my tutorial topic on wiki page and I said thank you, I still appreciate it, because I was too lazy to do it (to add every tutorials again to different page and so the link only was a great thing what you did) by myself (and really did not know how to do it back then). I think there was some kind of language wall when I was talking about remembering to update the page and you was talking about which one is better: wiki page or this forum :lol:
(btw I created first tuto in the year of 2015 and you said that wiki thing in the year of 2017).

Aaaand last thing about tutorials. When I search tutorials, no matter what is the thing I try to learn, I go to the youtube. Same with Gdevelop when I found it: I went to youtube and tried to find tutorials. Then I searched forums. Then example folder and then the wiki that was so messy looking and unprofessional that since then I haven't visited there too often. I found what I wanted, but not in the wiki pages. So I think youtube and forums are the things.

Now really the last thing:
Deep inside you are hoping you can get some credit for what you do and benefit from it. I don't think that's wrong, do you?

Yes if I finish my game , of course I want feedback and credit what I have done. But to make tutorials/examples for a living? Hell no! :lol: I keep that thing as a hobby of mine. But if that's what you want, I don't judge you!

I recommend you to make a youtube channel where you add videos how the example in the itch.io works and then link to the itch page etc. I think you will be amazed how many people will find your tutos compared what it is now :)
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By arc1tec4
#65647 I second the youtube direction. I haven't looked at too many of your examples yet, but I was going to when it was inventory time :D .

If you need to move on then, that's up to you of course, but having experienced people here is always a positive.